Saturday, July 9, 2011
WE ARE GETTING SO CLOSE!! ...a conversation with man that had a Near Death Experience
I am passing this on with permission from DAVIDKAT, who posted this in a well known forum in April of 2009. He is the one who makes the wonderful videos we all love so much.
Last night, I was able to see more of the BIG picture. I just want to share a quick insight. For the past couple of years, it has bothered me that in conference, the Brethren have been relatively silent in warning, giving counsel in preparing for the last days etc. I have prayed and yearned for Samuel the Lamanite-like talks, or President Benson's or Bruce R. McConkie's talks... yet instead we have been getting talks on Faith, on Hope.. on Charity/Service etc..
My thoughts have been.. here the world is crumbling, disasters are eminent, people are not prepared and need to be. I was very frustrated and wondered WHY ARE WE NOT GETTING THE WARNINGS...
I was on the phone with my mother-in-law last night who just talked with a man that had a near-death-experien
ce. He told her many things, but she felt impressed to tell me one thing in particular. He said things are so very close to all of the "prophesied" things to begin happening. He talked about the "cycle" (reaffirmed in the Boyd K Packer's Priesthood Talk in given in conference) and how just before things completely fall apart and collapse with utter destruction, the Lord's annointed stop warning, and start speaking about faith, hope and charity. IT IS THE LAST STAGE IN THE CYCLE.
Then it hit me... The is a template for this as well. Case in point. We read in Ether... we get all the warnings about secret combinations etc and how the wickedness is abounding and that the people will be destroyed if they don't repent.. then just before the entire civilization gets destroyed we get the 12th chapter on FAITH,HOPE and CHARITY..
Another example we find in Moroni chapter 8.. just before telling us that the people will perish and the prophecies will be fulfulled, Mormon teaches his son Moroni (and us), about Faith, Hope and Charity.
Okay... fast forward to the past two conferences.
. what messages are we hearing... FAITH, HOPE, and CHARITY!!!!!
WOW.. it hit me like a ton of bricks.. It was the answer that I needed to hear about why we aren't receiving the voice of warning like I wanted.
Here is how I see the cycle now: AS A PEOPLE WE move from being Humble to Obedient to Blessed to living Righteously to Ease to Laziness to Prideful to to Immorality to having the prophets warning us to repent to Wickedness to Ripening to the Point of no return to No more on Warnings, but teaching the humble followers to have Faith, Hope,and Charity -THEN DESTRUCTION, CALAMITIES, etc- compelling us back to being HUMBLE.....
So, we probably won't see the prophets speaking to us to warn us.. we are past that time, we are in the final stage. This is the Lord's way, just as He has done with the 2 prior civilizations (Jaredites, and the Nephites).. It is my opinion, the more we hear about HOPE, don't DESPAIR, etc .. THE CLOSER WE ARE!
I hope to speak to this man personally who had this . He said some amazing things to my mother-in-law. In a nutshell, my mother-in-law now feels that she will be alive to see all of this unfold. Before she thought she wouldn't be around. WE ARE SO VERY CLOSE to things accerelating.
Just as a sidenote that just hit me, In one of my last videos, "Great Trials Lie Ahead".. I started out with all of the warnings of McConkie, Benson, Eyring.... and felt very strongly to end the video with the statements of HOPE by Uchtdorf... This is a pattern, it is pattern seen in the Book of Mormon and we are following that same pattern today... NEXT STEP for ALL OF US: The Destruction of the Wicked and the Saints being Humbled.
and by the way....the Book of Mormon is true.
That was the original post. Now here is one person's response:
You're certainly on the right path...and I think it goes even deeper than we all might think.
The Brethren are leading the church through some very "narrow places" currently. Back in April 1980's General Conference, Elder Bruce R. McConkie described that path, the path that had to be covered for those who finish their journey to Zion.
He said the church will have to pass by the jackal lurking in the underbrush (in other words - beneath the bushes), the serpent in its hole, and the lion in its den - before we could stand with the Lamb on Mount Zion. (The Coming Tests and Trials and Glory.)
Elder McConkie was most certainly talking in parables...and the Brethren have very quietly led the church past the jackal beneath the bushes, the serpent in its hole and the lion in is den. (Read D&C 105:26-29 for another parable on this issue).
As in the Book of Mormon, this pattern of prophecy is repeating today. After the nations are all united in the large and spacious building to fight against the Lamb and his 12 apostles, only then will the Lord come out of his hiding place and fight the battle for and in behalf of the saints.
As long as the prophetic silence continues, the things and the times in the church remain pleasant. Once this silence ends, the truth of the secret combinations and hidden agendas revealed, then Satan and his false "priests" will turn against the Brethren, because they revile the truth and will seek to destroy the Church and the Brethren who know who the true Bridegroom is. While the prophetic silence remains in place, much like the 1/2 hour of silence, the wedding feast continues on in relative peace. When this silence ends, the worst persecution we can imagine will be heaped upon the church and our leaders and the great seive will be in full sifting mode. As Brigham Young stated, the "bells of hell" will be ringing. The pleasantries of this wonderful wedding feast lasts only so long as the silence is maintained..
With that in mind, what would you do? Would you end the silence and bring the persecution on full steam ahead - bring the persecution in heaping amounts to all the faithful, or would you maintain the silence as the church creeps silently past the dens of lions, snakes and jackals?
Elder McConkie stated, in his 1980 conference talk, that then was the "great day of [Satan's] power", that "gadianton robbers fill[ed] the judgment seats in many nations", and that an "evil power" was seeking to "overthrow the freedom of all nations and countries."
Then, President Benson spoke of the secret combinations in his conference talk in 1988 - called "I Testify" - for the last time over the pulpit and said that the secret combination was increasing its evil influence and control over America and the entire world to "overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations and countries". Sometime between those 1980 and 1988 (interesting to note that this was the time period when GHWB was thrust into his role as VP) , Satan's temptations came upon all the world/nations.
..and what did Jesus say about when Satan would make his tempting proposals to all the nations - uniting the nations in that Great and Spacious Building to fight against the Lamb and the Church??
From 1988 to now it's been 20.5 years, roughly a 1/2 hour time period/window of silence in the Lord's time. Everything the prophets have spoken over the pulpit since then, in this regard, has been in parable form - for those that have eyes to see and ears to hear, but nevertheless hiding the true meaning from the wicked.
Elder McConkie intimates that we have much, much more persecution to face before we finish our trek to Zion to meet the Lamb, and other prophets and apostles note that we will experience the worst kind of persecution.
..most of which happens once the silence ends. You may have noticed, as did I, that many of the apostles and prophets were much more direct in their words this past conference (though not entirely so). I think the 1/2 hour window of silence is closing and I personally think the time for us to get ready spiritually for what is coming is also NOW.
So, again, I pose the question...if you were the Prophet, would you end the silence now or would you wait a little longer for the Church to be allowed to pass through the very "narrow" places??
Lastly, I agree that the time is getting very, very near...perhaps much closer than we all think. Much, much closer.
And lastly, I am pasting a copy of President Benson's talk, I Testify (bold emphases were put there by the person who submitted it to the other forum):
October 1988, the last time Pres. Benson spoke in GC:
President Ezra Taft Benson
My beloved brethren and sisters, my heart is full and my feelings tender as we conclude this great general conference of the Church.
We have been richly blessed as we have listened to the counsel and testimonies of those who have spoken to us.
As a special witness of Jesus Christ, and as His humble servant, it is now my obligation and privilege, as the Spirit dictates, to bear pure testimony and witness to that which I know to be true. (See Alma 4:19.) This I will do.
I testify that we are the spirit offspring of a loving God, our Heavenly Father (see Acts 17:29; 1 Ne. 17:36). He has a great plan of salvation whereby His children might be perfected as He is and might have a fulness of joy as He enjoys. (See 1 Ne. 10:18; 2 Ne. 2:25; Alma 24:14; Alma 34:9; 3 Ne. 12:48; 3 Ne. 28:10.)
I testify that in our premortal state our Elder Brother in the spirit, even Jesus Christ, became our foreordained Savior in the Father’s plan of salvation. (See Mosiah 4:6–7; Alma 34:9.) He is the captain of our salvation and the only means through whom we can return to our Father in Heaven to gain that fulness of joy. (See Heb. 2:10; Mosiah 3:17; Alma 38:9.)
I testify that Lucifer was also in the council of heaven. He sought to destroy the agency of man. He rebelled. (See Moses 4:3.) There was a war in heaven, and a third of the hosts were cast to the earth and denied a body. (See Rev. 12:7–9; D&C 29:36–37.) Lucifer is the enemy of all righteousness and seeks the misery of all mankind. (See 2 Ne. 2:18, 27; Mosiah 4:14.)
I testify that all those who come into mortality accepted our Father’s plan. (See Abr. 3:26.) Having proved faithful in their first estate in heaven, they are now subject to the test of mortality in this second estate. That test entails doing all things whatsoever the Lord requires. (See Abr. 3:25.) Those who prove faithful in this second estate will have glory added upon their heads forever and ever. (See Abr. 3:26.)
I testify that Christ was born into mortality with Mary as His mother and our Heavenly Father as His father. (See 1 Ne. 11:18–21; Mosiah 3:8.) He lived a sinless life, providing us a perfect example. (See D&C 45:4; 3 Ne. 12:48; 3 Ne. 27:27.) He worked out the great Atonement, which, through His grace, provides for every soul a resurrection and, for the faithful, the means to become exalted in the celestial kingdom. (See A of F 1:3; 2 Ne. 25:23; Mosiah 4:6–7; Alma 11:41–45; D&C 76:50–70; D&C 132:19.)
I testify that during His mortal ministry Christ established His church on the earth. (See Matt. 16:18; Acts 2:47; 3 Ne. 21:22.) He called and ordained men to be Apostles and prophets with authority so that what they bound on earth would be bound in heaven. (See Matt. 16:19; John 15:16.) They received revelation, which provided new scripture. (See 2 Pet. 1:20–21; D&C 68:4.)
I testify that a world so wicked that it killed the Son of God soon began killing the Apostles and prophets and so plunged itself into a spiritual dark age. (See 2 Thes. 2:2–7.) Scripture ended, apostasy spread, and the church that Christ established during His earthly ministry ceased to exist. (See 2 Ne. 27:4–5.)
I testify that God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, appeared to Joseph Smith in the spring of 1820, thus bringing to an end the long night of apostasy (JS—H 1:15–20). To Joseph Smith appeared other beings, including John the Baptist and Peter, James, and John, who ordained him with authority to act in the name of God (see JS—H 1:68–72; D&C 27:5–13). The church and kingdom of God was restored in these latter days, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, with all the gifts, rights, powers, doctrines, officers, and blessings of the former-day Church. (See D&C 65; D&C 115:3–4.)
I testify that through the Book of Mormon God has provided for our day tangible evidence that Jesus is the Christ and that Joseph Smith is His prophet. (See D&C 20:8–33.) This other testament of Jesus Christ is a scriptural account of the early inhabitants of America. It was translated by Joseph Smith through the gift and power of God. (See D&C 135:3.) Those who will read and ponder the Book of Mormon and ask our Eternal Father in the name of Christ if it is true may know for themselves of its truthfulness through the power of the Holy Ghost, provided they will ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ. (See Moro. 10:3–5.)
I testify that America is a choice land. (See 2 Ne. 1:5.) God raised up the founding fathers of the United States of America and established the inspired Constitution. (See D&C 101:77–80.) This was the required prologue for the restoration of the gospel. (See 3 Ne. 21:4.) America will be a blessed land unto the righteous forever and is the base from which God will continue to direct the worldwide latter-day operations of His kingdom. (See 2 Ne. 1:7.)
I testify that there has been, and there is now, and there will be legal successors to the Prophet Joseph Smith who hold the keys of the kingdom of God on earth, even the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. (See D&C 21:1–7; D&C 107:91–92; D&C 112:15.) He receives revelation from God to direct His kingdom. Associated with him are others who are prophets, seers, and revelators, even those who make up the presiding quorums of the Church, namely the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. (See D&C 112:30.)
I testify that wickedness is rapidly expanding in every segment of our society. (See D&C 1:14–16; D&C 84:49–53.) It is more highly organized, more cleverly disguised, and more powerfully promoted than ever before. Secret combinations lusting for power, gain, and glory are flourishing. A secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries is increasing its evil influence and control over America and the entire world. (See Ether 8:18–25.)
I testify that the church and kingdom of God is increasing in strength. Its numbers are growing, as is the faithfulness of its faithful members. It has never been better organized or equipped to perform its divine mission.
I testify that as the forces of evil increase under Lucifer’s leadership and as the forces of good increase under the leadership of Jesus Christ, there will be growing battles between the two until the final confrontation. As the issues become clearer and more obvious, all mankind will eventually be required to align themselves either for the kingdom of God or for the kingdom of the devil. As these conflicts rage, either secretly or openly, the righteous will be tested. God’s wrath will soon shake the nations of the earth and will be poured out on the wicked without measure. (See JS—H 1:45; D&C 1:9.) But God will provide strength for the righteous and the means of escape; and eventually and finally truth will triumph. (See 1 Ne. 22:15–23.)
I testify that it is time for every man to set in order his own house both temporally and spiritually. It is time for the unbeliever to learn for himself that this work is true, that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the kingdom which Daniel prophesied God would set up in the latter days, never to be destroyed, a stone that would eventually fill the whole earth and stand forever. (See Dan. 2:34–45; D&C 65:2.) It is time for us, as members of the Church, to walk in all the ways of the Lord, to use our influence to make popular that which is sound and to make unpopular that which is unsound. We have the scriptures, the prophets, and the gift of the Holy Ghost. Now we need eyes that will see, ears that will hear, and hearts that will hearken to God’s direction.
I testify that not many years hence the earth will be cleansed. (See D&C 76:41.) Jesus the Christ will come again, this time in power and great glory to vanquish His foes and to rule and reign on the earth. (See D&C 43:26–33.) In due time all men will gain a resurrection and then will face the Master in a final judgment. (See 2 Ne. 9:15, 41.) God will give rewards to each according to the deeds done in the flesh. (See Alma 5:15.)
I testify to you that a fulness of joy can only come through the atonement of Jesus Christ and by obedience to all of the laws and ordinances of the gospel, which are found only in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. (See A of F 1:3.)
To all these things I humbly testify and bear my solemn witness that they are true, and I do so in the name of Him who is the head of this church, even Jesus Christ, amen.